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		<title>By: Ilija Studen</title>
		<link>http://chrismlindsey.com/switching-to-projectpier-from-activecollab/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilija Studen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of experimenting with &quot;innovative&quot; business models to make a living and continue the development we used one of the oldest models in the history - charge for your work. It&#039;s actually that simple. Money we make helps us have sustainable business and constantly invest in the project - development, support, marketing and so on.

Projects you mentioned make money by providing additional services. We think that software itself also has value so we focused on producing kick ass software that people actually want to buy. Free is a great feature, but if you want to make money by selling software you need to have something really good.

We switched to commercial model to provide more value to our customers and have a sustainable business. I think our customers appreciate this because they get better software and service that we could ever provide as open source project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of experimenting with &#8220;innovative&#8221; business models to make a living and continue the development we used one of the oldest models in the history &#8211; charge for your work. It&#8217;s actually that simple. Money we make helps us have sustainable business and constantly invest in the project &#8211; development, support, marketing and so on.</p>
<p>Projects you mentioned make money by providing additional services. We think that software itself also has value so we focused on producing kick ass software that people actually want to buy. Free is a great feature, but if you want to make money by selling software you need to have something really good.</p>
<p>We switched to commercial model to provide more value to our customers and have a sustainable business. I think our customers appreciate this because they get better software and service that we could ever provide as open source project.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://chrismlindsey.com/switching-to-projectpier-from-activecollab/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ilija, thanks for your clarifications.  I just find it deplorable that a project began as open source and then closed, with no open source version.  Many have been able to monetize open source (see Ubuntu, MySQL, WordPress, and on and on), and I don&#039;t see why you still don&#039;t offer an open or free version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilija, thanks for your clarifications.  I just find it deplorable that a project began as open source and then closed, with no open source version.  Many have been able to monetize open source (see Ubuntu, MySQL, WordPress, and on and on), and I don&#8217;t see why you still don&#8217;t offer an open or free version.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilija Studen</title>
		<link>http://chrismlindsey.com/switching-to-projectpier-from-activecollab/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilija Studen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 13:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is completely legal as long as person making the switch is copyright owner of the code. In this particular case I was because 99.99% of code was written by me (apart from libraries used, but they are available under LGPL). Code that was not written by me was removed (some tab CSS tweaks).

While some think that we just took the open source version and put a price tag on it that is not true. We invested a lot of money and time in v1.0 - activeCollab 1.0 was development by a team of 3 full time developers for 6 months. It is much better than open source version, has more features, looks better and comes with support.

Free version of activeCollab is still available on our website and as forks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is completely legal as long as person making the switch is copyright owner of the code. In this particular case I was because 99.99% of code was written by me (apart from libraries used, but they are available under LGPL). Code that was not written by me was removed (some tab CSS tweaks).</p>
<p>While some think that we just took the open source version and put a price tag on it that is not true. We invested a lot of money and time in v1.0 &#8211; activeCollab 1.0 was development by a team of 3 full time developers for 6 months. It is much better than open source version, has more features, looks better and comes with support.</p>
<p>Free version of activeCollab is still available on our website and as forks.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://chrismlindsey.com/switching-to-projectpier-from-activecollab/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, I would like to know about the legality of this transition to closed-source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, I would like to know about the legality of this transition to closed-source.</p>
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		<title>By: Hon</title>
		<link>http://chrismlindsey.com/switching-to-projectpier-from-activecollab/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Hon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m interested to know the legal ramifications of this - changing from opensource to closedsource.

Seems kind of fraudulent.

Getting people to work for free on your project under the guise of  opensource and then totally burning them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested to know the legal ramifications of this &#8211; changing from opensource to closedsource.</p>
<p>Seems kind of fraudulent.</p>
<p>Getting people to work for free on your project under the guise of  opensource and then totally burning them.</p>
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